Posts tagged ‘craigslist’

World’s Worst Recruiter

This cartoon is an example of what can happen if the Time to Hire metric is more important than the Quality of Hire metric. The video is 2:00:

“Did you ask her about her past?”
“It didn’t seem relevant at the time. What’s important is that I filled the job really fast.”



26 August 2012 at 1:06AM Leave a comment

How Not to Get a Job as a Tutor

Nancy from Texas

Nancy from Texas

Nancy is a teacher from Houston, Texas, who also runs a blog called Nancy’s Garden Spot. Last year about this time, she posted about her experience in trying to recruit and hire tutors to teach Reading and Math. She has run into some of the classic follies with resumes and interviews. Here are her thoughts on the process:

How NOT to Get a Job

Recently, we posted an ad on Craigslist to hire some new tutors, both Math and Reading. In the ad, we specifically stated that replies should include a resume and cover letter and information about teaching or tutoring experience. The Learning Center I work for has a very low student to teacher ratio and we individualize for EACH child. Teachers are preferred, though Math tutors who are willing to learn methodology (how to teach or reteach effectively), are welcome too.

I’ve received some very good responses, more than we can hire right now, though we’d love to have them all.

Still, there are the ones you just read and wonder: “What the HELL were they thinking?”

Nancy goes on:

But for sheer briefness, brusqueness and, well, bad manners, this one took the cake:

I have great training in reading for
beginners through grade 2 and I taught
all subjects in first grade. Please
tell me exactly where you are located
and salary if interested in me for
part time work.

She did include a VERY brief sort of resume, included in the body of the message. She did have some experience as a teacher, and might have been…worth interviewing… at least. However, all things did not proceed well for her.

This prompts Nancy to write a reply (which we can’t tell if she sent.)

Ms X, I’d like to make some constructive suggestions for when you respond to other advertisements for tutors or tutoring positions, so that you might correct some of the missteps you’ve made with me.

1). Read the ad, and follow the requests. For example: We asked for a resume and a cover letter. These are, usually, provided by the applicant in an attachment.

2) Your emails to me have been rather…demanding. Remember, you are asking for a job. I’m not begging you to take it. Courtesy counts for a lot. Starting your emails with a “Hello” or “Good Morning”… sets a more courteous tone.

See the whole thing:

14 September 2009 at 7:10PM Leave a comment

Must see site: NotHired

The NotHired site is a hoot! NotHired is run by “a dedicated group of HR monkeys and hiring managers” who “see thousands of cover letters and resumes every month. Some of them desperately need to be shared.” They’ve listed many great examples of horrible cover letters and resumes. Their site is “Dedicated to all those who wonder why no one has called to set up an interview…”

Here’s the best of the worst:

I don’t know Craig personally, but my friend told me about his list and I saw your job on there.

The NotHired authors point out this message came from an AOL address.

Update 25 January 2012: Unfortunately, the Nothired site has died. You can see a Twitter feed here, and a Facebook page here. Neither has been updated since 2010.

30 March 2008 at 9:35PM 1 comment

Tips: 50 Free Job Posting Sites

Over on the Bootstrapper site, Christina Laun has posted a list titled Better than Monster: 50 Free Places You Can Post A Job Online and Get Top Talent. Her list includes some well-know alternative sites like Craigslist, and some other niche job locations.

Recruiters should check the list to see if you can use some of these to expand your posting circle.

Candidates should check the list for new postings not on the majors.

Unknown factor: Does the Indeed search engine go out to these sites?

23 November 2007 at 6:01PM Leave a comment

Guy: How to Not Hire Someone Via Craigslist

This week, the ever-interesting Guy Kawasaki and his buddy Danny Kay take apart a job posting on New York City CraigsList for Sr. Web Designer/ Graphic Artist Position. The posting is typical – full of requirements, empty of selling the opportunity. But regardless of what the hiring manager/HR Rep/Recruiter want, nobody qualifies for the job. This might be because they’re asking for:

Proficiency with Photoshop, Illustrator, ImageReady, Dreamweaver, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, InDesign “and/or” QuarkExpress, and Flash.

Guy points out the problems with this requirement:

Only the kids of John Warnock who were suckled at the breast of Adobe could know all these applications.

30 August 2007 at 8:56AM Leave a comment

How Not to Get a Job: Lazy, Uneducated, Careless Persons Wanted

An old one found in my e-mail, here’s an actual job posting from Craig’s List New York from 2005. I know how the poster feels:

Growing profitable respected tech company seeks people without any sort of completed college degree (and who misspell bachelors), to arrive in the office not at scheduled times but rather when they see fit and after arrival to proceed to do as little as humanly possible and never learn anything.

We’re not picky on the completion thing here so if we ask for a university graduate, and you once attended a class or might possibly plan to at some point in time, please go right ahead and apply. Our specific needs/wants and especially our time is worthless. Only you matter.

Further, we ask that you send a totally irrelevant generic cover letter (possibly including a title for a different job or often a different company’s name) that mentions you possess a very special talent and can speak the language of the country you were born and raised in before you came here and that utterly ignores the topic you were asked to address in the cover letter.

We’ve only worked day and night for 5 years building this company to the point we need additional help, positively no need for you to waste 4 minutes of your precious time actually expressing the slightest bit of effort/interest. (In prior ridiculous ads we mentioned we were an internet firm and asked you to include a sentence of how you use the internet, roughly 90% of you couldn’t be bothered, please accept our apologies).

If you’re late, by all means blame public transportation not your failure to take an earlier subway/bus. And while we’re on the topic of your coming here, also by all means don’t dare show the initiative to locate somewhere as obscure as Wall Street all on your own (as miraculously do the thousands of tourists who don’t speak a word of English and yet somehow find their own way here daily), but instead do call us and ask repeatedly which train comes here and when.

This is important, I know you’re bored already, sorry, but ignore our URL where it shows who we are, tells what we do, our street address, etc… The mention of it in prior ads was merely more silly fodder from our prior juvenile advertisements, instead email or call us for both the address and directions, then arrive late for the hassle of an interview and halfway through ask the name of the company and what it is we do anyhow.

We don’t need programmers at the moment, this ad is for office administrators and event managers, but even if you have never opened a single “For Dummies” book much less seen a programming textbook and keeping in mind that you couldn’t be expected to type a single line of the simplest code for a million dollars, by all means include as skills on your resume a list of every programming language you’ve ever heard of or which could possibly be found on Google.

Also, we know you’re busy either being unemployed or stealing a paycheck somewhere else while you job search, so ALL CAPS, no caps, no punctuation, and spelling errors are all fine and emphasize our pointless request for detail-oriented people. It has been our lack of concern and shoddy work that has gained us so many clients, we’re happy to have them think less of us because you can’t be bothered to run spellcheck for your cover letter (if you even bothered including one and aren’t part of the horde just sending resumes alone). We know spellcheck, or worse being expected to be able to spell on your own, is a drag and once you’re here emailing documents to clients you’re sure to do better.

For event managers, when we send you to events we want you to show up late, dressed sloppily, make endless personal mobile phone calls, lose/damage/forget our equipment, elbow our hosts’ clients out of the way when they announce meals, leave the live event for as many smoke breaks as you wish, and complain about the food/entertainment to other onsite colleagues or anyone who will listen. Treat each event as your own personal social event, make dates, exchange personal phone numbers and email addresses, maybe even go out late at night and get drunk with your new “contacts.” It will provide you with something to distract your colleagues with the next day when you and they should be, ugh, working.

We begin early in the morning on event days, which are often, but you should feel free to be late and tell us we never mentioned it. We also work late and pay substantial bonuses, but nevertheless are really only seeking to exploit you. We also give healthcare after 90 days if you didn’t find a better job in the meantime. The fools who do learn and work and contribute earn more money based on, gasp, merit. But then they’re the same ones who check their grammar and who can be bothered?

Because it could easily be a virus you should certainly include your resume as an attachment if that’s easier for you and you should certainly not bring one to the interview. We’ll search through the hundreds of emails, locate yours under your AOL account, (I forget was that “alwaysawildpartyanimal @ aol” or “ilovedrugs @ msn” ?) and then print two copies, what the heck we’ll print three so you can take one to your next interview, which you actually mentioned twice that you’re running late for so could I please hurry it up.

We know email is not as convenient for you as instant messaging and a lot more complex than a fax, so call and ask if you can do either of those if that’s better for you.

If you’re a recruiter or jobsite, by all means do not email but instead call to tell us of candidates who aren’t available now for this immediate hire position, nor in any manner qualified, but who might be considering moving to NYC or better yet, just spam us.

None of the above was imagined or created but rather are all accurate specific repeated examples of what we’ve received. This is an ad of frustration, we have a great, respected, and growing tech company and we need good smart dedicated people to work hard for long hours at events around the country or in the office supporting those client events. We pay well and have generous bonuses.

17 May 2007 at 2:22PM Leave a comment

My Core Ideas

1. "I can't tell you the best way to get a job - because there is no one best way. After 21 years of recruiting, I CAN share things I've seen candidates do to guarantee they DIDN'T get the job."

2. "Most companies don't realize how their recruiting process impacts their candidate pool, and their business. Attention to simple things will result in big improvements."

About the Author

Troy Bettinger, SPHR is a Denver Recruiter, Public Speaker, HR Metrics Analyst and Human Resources Leader who has been recruiting in corporate and municipal environments since 1991.

He specializes in the complete hiring process: defining, sourcing, recruiting, testing, interviewing, offering and orienting new hires. He's also well versed in strategic human resources, college recruiting, diversity recruiting, AAP, EEO, ATS integration, recruiting metrics, social media, recruiting leadership, training and employment branding.


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